Post by EternalSushi on Jan 24, 2015 0:30:10 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, I still do collabs from time to time, but I've realized that the more I develop as a composer, the less urge I have to work with others.
Which leads me to the topic - what's the appeal of collaborating?
When I think about it now, it's quite an inconvenience - ElectricMudkip and I had to transfer midis to one another (he uses Logic and I used FL Studio 10 back then. I use 11 now), then, when the MIDI's done, he has to plop everything onto it because I can't master his tracks nor do I have all of his plugins and soundfonts. It ended up great, like a 'I'll arrange the rhythm/melody, and you can make it happen by making it sound awesome' thing.
But why? I mean, if the arranger has the vision of a perfect remix, he can potentially do it all by himself to ensure it fits his own vision. Anyone else doing it would probably make it less perfect in the guy's eyes as it's not his style.
And then there's the remixer. If you're capable of remixing things on your own, is there really a purpose to find someone else and, after exchanging midis and files and going through all that, have an extra phrase to add in from the other guy?
This made me think and look back. Why did I want to collab EVERYTHING?
I was quite an ambitious and excited person back then. I saw collaborating as a method to spread your name and increase the number of subscribers back then. If I worked with someone that's slightly ahead of me and we make something, maybe some of the person's viewers can also come and find me! It's one way of advertising someone else's channel. Is this the appeal of collaborating?
Other than that, I guess...we don't need to work that much as two guys are working on it? Then there are creative decision clashes and different software being issues, so I suppose this isn't the main appeal.
Also, I wasn't as good back then when it comes to technology (still not that good either), and collabs would help me in that regard. I could give someone the midi and tell him 'can you sidechain this and make a wobble bass and stuff?' so we can work on it together. I get everything else ready, and he can do the tech. So is this the appeal of collaborating? So some others can cover up your flaws, and do things that you don't know how to do (and then in turn do the same for him)? Then in that case, when one person is very experienced in almost all areas (I know a few around this forum. You know who you are!), then wouldn't that benefit of having someone else's aid be...redundant? If anything it might hinder progress to wait for one another. If he wants tech he can do it himself. If he wants a good arrangement, perhaps he's good at it too. Then what's the appeal and use for collabs then? Is it really just to add another name in the piece to advertise?
That's my analysis!
Which leads me to the topic - what's the appeal of collaborating?
When I think about it now, it's quite an inconvenience - ElectricMudkip and I had to transfer midis to one another (he uses Logic and I used FL Studio 10 back then. I use 11 now), then, when the MIDI's done, he has to plop everything onto it because I can't master his tracks nor do I have all of his plugins and soundfonts. It ended up great, like a 'I'll arrange the rhythm/melody, and you can make it happen by making it sound awesome' thing.
But why? I mean, if the arranger has the vision of a perfect remix, he can potentially do it all by himself to ensure it fits his own vision. Anyone else doing it would probably make it less perfect in the guy's eyes as it's not his style.
And then there's the remixer. If you're capable of remixing things on your own, is there really a purpose to find someone else and, after exchanging midis and files and going through all that, have an extra phrase to add in from the other guy?
This made me think and look back. Why did I want to collab EVERYTHING?
I was quite an ambitious and excited person back then. I saw collaborating as a method to spread your name and increase the number of subscribers back then. If I worked with someone that's slightly ahead of me and we make something, maybe some of the person's viewers can also come and find me! It's one way of advertising someone else's channel. Is this the appeal of collaborating?
Other than that, I guess...we don't need to work that much as two guys are working on it? Then there are creative decision clashes and different software being issues, so I suppose this isn't the main appeal.
Also, I wasn't as good back then when it comes to technology (still not that good either), and collabs would help me in that regard. I could give someone the midi and tell him 'can you sidechain this and make a wobble bass and stuff?' so we can work on it together. I get everything else ready, and he can do the tech. So is this the appeal of collaborating? So some others can cover up your flaws, and do things that you don't know how to do (and then in turn do the same for him)? Then in that case, when one person is very experienced in almost all areas (I know a few around this forum. You know who you are!), then wouldn't that benefit of having someone else's aid be...redundant? If anything it might hinder progress to wait for one another. If he wants tech he can do it himself. If he wants a good arrangement, perhaps he's good at it too. Then what's the appeal and use for collabs then? Is it really just to add another name in the piece to advertise?
That's my analysis!
