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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2015 23:50:30 GMT -5
Whether it's TCG or VG, people play pokemon competitively.
So, does anyone here play it for keeps? It's fine if you don't. It takes a lot of time.
And also, Does anyone go to tournaments?
Also (again), If you don't competitively play pokemon, what do competitive players seem like? I really am egotistic and all... so I don't have any other perspective of what I am actually doing.
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Post by briman0094 on Jan 28, 2015 13:12:01 GMT -5
I tried it but I can't stand playing with people who are so stuck up and pretentious that if I don't do things exactly the way they think you're "supposed" to, they insult my quality as a human being. Most of the people I've played with are like that. I also apparently don't have the required mental capacity to memorize the entire database of moves, items, types, and abilities which also seems to be necessary. I understand the full concept behind competitive; I just can't do it.
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Post by BerryPi on Jan 28, 2015 13:59:43 GMT -5
I've tried but I have no idea how anything works.
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Post by ElectricMudkip on Jan 28, 2015 14:48:16 GMT -5
I've been interested in competitive play for years now, but I've never TRULY made perfect Pokemon for battle, you know? It's just so much time and effort. ... However, I'm finally saying "Screw it!" with OR/AS and actually building some decent Pokemon. Well, I'm getting a lot of help via Wonder Trade (BLESS WONDER TRADE OH MY GOSH IT'S SO USEFUL FOR THIS KIND OF THING) but regardless, I do hope I can get into the meta-game this time around for realzies.
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Post by briman0094 on Jan 28, 2015 14:51:06 GMT -5
We forum members should have battles with each other casually so we can practice without being pitted against egotistical nerds who literally devote their life to beating 12-year-olds at Pokemon (basically everybody on Wifi Battles)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2015 15:24:35 GMT -5
I really don't like going back and forth and back and forth and HATCH and back and forth and back and forth.,... I am starting to take up competitive VG just so I can battle whoever when they ask. Maybe I'll use pokegen...
I have no idea why people competitively battle and not follow official PCi rules, such as banning megas. It makes no sense to me.
Playing TCG competitively is fun, but requires money. A lot. Sometimes it's a matter of skill, but unless both players are playing competitive decks, YOU MUST HAVE ONE OF THE FOLLOWING ARCHETYPES: VIRGEN, PYROAR, YVELTAL, FAIRIES, NIGHT MARCH, DONPHAN, OR MUST HAVE AT LEAST ONE OF SEISMITOAD, GARBODOR, MANECTRIC, LANDORUS.. TO WIN.
Also tournaments are demanding. However, they are great. I'm thinking of biking 7 hours strraight (according to google) just to get to regionals.
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Post by MorningCoffee on Jan 28, 2015 16:50:14 GMT -5
I did some competitive VG play for a while, mostly unofficial. I stopped for a number of reasons, (mega-evos screwed everything up, fairy type is dumb, too much hard-meta) and I'm glad I did. It was way too much of a commitment for me, and it got to the point where anything practical and/or conventional was getting banned. I've seen plenty of stuck-up egomaniacs, humble competitors, and fiery spirits; but things came to the level where it didn't matter who you were playing because people would be stuck using the same tactics. The spirit of competition was fun for a while, but the increasing level of metagaming and ever-constricting bans made it feel like you were playing Starcraft. If people are looking to get into VG comp-play, by all means go ahead 'cause it's plenty fun-- just know what your getting into. Metagames suck and keep people from coming up with new and interesting approaches to situations by forcing everyone to be black-and-white, not to mention that it can turn people into analytical nutcases. DON'T GIVE IN TO THE METAAAA pls
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Post by psycommando on Jan 28, 2015 16:51:23 GMT -5
I do enjoy competitive battling, well the more causual version of it! If anyone feels like it, I'd be up for some battling ! There's also, Pokemon Showdown that can be used for battling, and it doesn't require breeding any pokemon firsthand, you can just pick what you want. Its maintained by the smogon community, but you can play any rules you want really. And, it helps a lot to watch poketubers battles on youtube, you learn quickly what does what, and you can gauge better what to do when you actually battle. I've been watching tons of Shadypenguinn's battle videos, because I feel he's one of the nicer poketubers, and he puts out battle videos everydays. I tried it but I can't stand playing with people who are so stuck up and pretentious that if I don't do things exactly the way they think you're "supposed" to, they insult my quality as a human being. Most of the people I've played with are like that. I also apparently don't have the required mental capacity to memorize the entire database of moves, items, types, and abilities which also seems to be necessary. I understand the full concept behind competitive; I just can't do it. About the hostility of the competitive scene, I think it has mostly to do with how most people are just parroting what they read somewhere to gain "internet cool points" basically. I mean, sure, there's truth in what they're rambling about, but that's not a free license to be an asshole. You shouldn't mind those people too much. Besides, some try to do derogatory remarks like that, because they got thrown off by you not using the same thing as everyone else.. Smogon has been a big source of that crap for years, but recently they've really made an effort to finally attain a little more professionalism and sportsmanship within their community and articles. In Gen 5 for example, you'd find articles that would literally make fun of the pokemon they were made on, while anyone reading those could not give less of a crap about that snarkiness. However, there's still this whole tendency where when forum members know they're right, they're going to go the extra mile and basically just try to ignite a flame war with some needless comment on how this or that pokemon is so bad or whatever. That kind of remarks brings absolutely nothing to a debate, and if anything shows a lack of maturity and a dishonest attempt in being objective and helpful. Not to mention that Gamefreak isn't doing the best job at balancing the game either. There's hardly ~200 pokemons out of the 700+ that aren't missing something to work well in battle.(Of course this number includes pre-evolutions, but even some pre-evo are battle worthy thanks to eviolite and etc) I've been interested in competitive play for years now, but I've never TRULY made perfect Pokemon for battle, you know? It's just so much time and effort. ... However, I'm finally saying "Screw it!" with OR/AS and actually building some decent Pokemon. Well, I'm getting a lot of help via Wonder Trade (BLESS WONDER TRADE OH MY GOSH IT'S SO USEFUL FOR THIS KIND OF THING) but regardless, I do hope I can get into the meta-game this time around for realzies. When you're just starting out, you don't need all perfect IVs. Just be sure to have the right nature, and EV train them properly. Having at least one or two IVs where it matters is good enough early on. And when you do want to breed them with IVs, most of the time you only need 5 perfect IVs on a pokemon. To make things faster with breeding, you want to breed a male poke with good IVs in as many egg groups as possible. (some pokes actually share multiple egg groups, which makes this much easier!) That way, you can pass the IVs to any other pokes in those egg groups! Since most pokemons are in the Field egg group, that might be a good start ! I got a ton of 5 IVs Poochyenas I breed with everything else. They're easy to breed, and the eggs hatch really fast too. You might want to look at a breeding guide on youtube. They do a good job at this. I think Shofu's was the easiest to understand I stumbled on. I really don't like going back and forth and back and forth and HATCH and back and forth and back and forth.,... I am starting to take up competitive VG just so I can battle whoever when they ask. Maybe I'll use pokegen... I have no idea why people competitively battle and not follow official PCi rules, such as banning megas. It makes no sense to me. [...] There's a trick to hatch eggs with little input from your part. You can do something else while doing it that way !: www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPkVlucuWa0It works much better on X/Y though, because when a pokemon hatches you don't need to re-lock yourself into the infinite loop. Also having a pokemon with flame body in your party, like talonflame/fletchinder, slugma, reduce the hatching time significantly. And, I think you're referring to smogon.. Well, at first, they wanted to make the game more competitive and less luck based, while making tiers for people to battle with their favorites against pokemon they could take on and having fun. But it really degenerated.. Especially when tiers became synonyms for how good or bad pokemons are.. They're not the only ruleset though. There are many small leagues that have their own rulesets. They're just not official. And personally, I've always been annoyed at how you can't use 6 pokemon in VGC, and how there aren't any singles battle formats competitions.. Being stuck in double, with only 4 pokemon slots to fill basically neuters most of my favorites, which weren't all that great to begin with..
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Post by Mox on Jan 29, 2015 1:31:55 GMT -5
I -used- to do competitive battling, back during the days of 4th and 5th gen. Mostly OU/UU tiers. I had some mixed success...I actually started out with relatively good results and had a respectable W-L record around late 2011/early 2012 I believe, but then I started to get on an unfortunate losing streak. Battling wasn't fun anymore and I lost interest in having unique ideas for creative teams. That was my calling card; using some of the less favored OU/UU mons and not always using the more popular ones most everyone else had on their teams. I had success with this for awhile, but when it stopped working I tried to use more common "OUs", the ones all the so-called experts always used. It didn't work so well, and once all the fun left me, I lost the inspiration to continue.
I THOUGHT the introduction of 6th gen would reignite that passion, especially since many metagame mechanics would be shifted a bit and all the new pokemon/abilities. And Mega Evolution? This all sounded PERFECT for me to resume my competitive battling. But for some odd reason, when I got X/Y I just focused on playing in-game and never got serious about making teams again. Sure, I have some EV trained pokes and I could easily construct a team if I wanted, but that interest never returned. Not yet at least. But then again I have been more busy lately working my irl job and most my freetime at home now is just surfing the web/chatting on skype. I do want to get into competitive battling again at some point, but I guess it can't be rushed and I'll just have to wait for the urge to come back to me.
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Post by Deemo R. on Jan 29, 2015 1:39:22 GMT -5
Not at all, lol. I play(ed) competitive Smash for a few years, which was the only game I ever really took on a serious level. Pokemon has always been a casual experience for me, but I love it for that reason. I have a few friends who dip their toes into the competitive end of the pool every now and again, but I don't see myself ever really taking the series to that level. However... Pokken Tournament may just make a liar out of me. Fingers crossed for international home-console release! :3
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Post by briman0094 on Jan 29, 2015 1:45:57 GMT -5
I like Smash because it's hard for egotistical elitists to make you feel like you're playing the game wrong because the game is designed to be playable by literally anybody.
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Post by EternalSushi on Jan 29, 2015 1:59:23 GMT -5
I don't play properly in actual Pokemon games, though I do have Smogon teams, OU, UU, NU etc to play against my classmates.
However, since Gen VI I've decided to get myself a semi-competitive team IN X and Y (though only in the endgame). It was tiring to breed but it's quite worth the fun in the end in battle spots.
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Post by ribby on Jan 29, 2015 7:24:59 GMT -5
Never been into comptetitive playing (not that I even play that Pokémon games that much either). I know how they work but I have no interest to do that.
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Post by DragonAirazel on Jan 29, 2015 11:58:33 GMT -5
I've frequented Smogon's battle simulator in gen 5, but I got really fed up with the general competitive mentality. I never did like using the cookie-cutter teams, so I tried to make an all-Flying team. The results varied, but they were okay. But the people I won against always complained about things, the people I lost to bragged even before the battle was over, and 65% of the battles were someone leaving before the battle even really began. I tried to get into competitive battling with the actual games. I EV trained a team of flying types in XY (that I still use in ORAS), and I joined a Pokémon club on my campus. However, I left that club because they banned both Mega Salamence (which I completely understand) AND regular Salamence (which I don't understand) with the (paraphrased) reason of "because screw it". I don't mind EV training, really. But I'm not going to try competitive anymore. I've given it multiple chances, and all chances ended up disappointing me even more.
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Post by Hydra1520 on Jan 29, 2015 14:50:39 GMT -5
I do some competitive battling but not that much, just like on and off.
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